{"id":3848,"date":"2020-05-29T16:21:21","date_gmt":"2020-05-29T20:21:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.astrologerbillattride.com\/blog\/?p=3848"},"modified":"2020-05-29T16:45:20","modified_gmt":"2020-05-29T20:45:20","slug":"america-at-a-turning-point-pluto-and-neptune-in-2020-and-2021-february-16-2020-transcript-of-radio-show","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.astrologerbillattride.com\/blog\/2020\/05\/29\/america-at-a-turning-point-pluto-and-neptune-in-2020-and-2021-february-16-2020-transcript-of-radio-show\/","title":{"rendered":"America at a Turning Point, Pluto and Neptune in 2020 and 2021 (February 16, 2020) \u2014 Transcript of Radio Show"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Tran\u00adscript of Radio Show: Amer\u00adi\u00adca at a Turn\u00ading Point \u2014 Plu\u00adto and Nep\u00adtune in 2020 and 2021<\/strong><\/p>\n

Our main top\u00adic today is about the cor\u00adre\u00adspon\u00addence of ener\u00adgies or res\u00ado\u00adnances regard\u00ading the plan\u00adets in terms of their orbital paths, and how long they take to make a cir\u00adcuit around the Sun. The plan\u00adets form these def\u00adi\u00adnite ratios with one anoth\u00ader, and it is inter\u00adest\u00ading that the out\u00ader plan\u00adets of Uranus, Nep\u00adtune, and Plu\u00adto form a ratio of one to two to three.<\/p>\n

In oth\u00ader words, Uranus\u2019 orbit is about 84 years and you dou\u00adble that rough\u00adly to get to Nep\u00adtune\u2019s orbit of 164 years, and then by three times that we have the orbit of Plu\u00adto which is 245. It is not an exact 1 to 2 to 3, but just like we humans, the plan\u00adets are indi\u00advid\u00adu\u00adals too, and they speed up and slow down and bob\u00adble and weave just like we do. So, every\u00adthing is not a per\u00adfect one thing or anoth\u00ader, but indi\u00advid\u00adu\u00adat\u00aded and indi\u00advid\u00adual in nature.<\/p>\n

But we find this gen\u00ader\u00adal ratio cor\u00adre\u00adspond\u00ading to many things. Because of these ratios, the plan\u00adets line up with them\u00adselves, (and with the plan\u00adets in any chart), and they will have a res\u00ado\u00adnance or har\u00admon\u00adic of meet\u00ading up at the same times or off\u00adset by a cer\u00adtain amount of time, which will rein\u00adforce their mes\u00adsag\u00ading. I found it kind of fas\u00adci\u00adnat\u00ading that right now we have in the USA<\/span> chart two big align\u00adments hap\u00adpen\u00ading simul\u00adta\u00adne\u00adous\u00adly, over\u00adlap\u00adping with one anoth\u00ader, which they have done in the past.<\/p>\n

Plu\u00adto<\/strong>
\nI have been talk\u00ading, as you know, quite a bit about Plu\u00adto and in many episodes, and that from 2008 to 2024 Plu\u00adto is march\u00ading through Capri\u00adcorn, (and it has not been back there for 240 years) and indeed this is this what is com\u00ading up here in 2021 and 2022, which will be Pluto\u2019s return to the USA<\/span> Plu\u00adto which is the first time it has hap\u00adpened, so it is big.<\/p>\n

If we look at Plu\u00adto lin\u00ading up with Plu\u00adto, and because we have Mer\u00adcury oppo\u00adsite to Plu\u00adto in our Natal chart for the USA<\/span>, there is a res\u00ado\u00adnance of this hap\u00adpen\u00ading through\u00adout our his\u00adto\u00adry that seems to deal with our ques\u00adtion about how we think of our\u00adselves (Mer\u00adcury) and how we deal with these ques\u00adtions of val\u00adue, and in our capac\u00adi\u00adty to have con\u00adtrol, self-con\u00adtrol or be under the con\u00adtrol of oth\u00aders (Plu\u00adto).<\/p>\n

For instance, if I was to look at this his\u00adtor\u00adi\u00adcal\u00adly, Plu\u00adto kept mov\u00ading along after the birth of our coun\u00adtry in 1776 and formed its first major aspect to itself and to Mer\u00adcury which hap\u00adpened in the late 1840s into the 1850s. That is when this coun\u00adtry was grap\u00adpling with ques\u00adtions about how we were going to devel\u00adop in terms of our econ\u00ado\u00admy and cul\u00adture, as we were mov\u00ading towards a crit\u00adi\u00adcal divi\u00adsion between a freer sys\u00adtem in the North and a slaved base sys\u00adtem in the South, that a strug\u00adgle was form\u00ading in our coun\u00adtry between a slave or free econ\u00ado\u00admy, and whether new states would be admit\u00adted as either slave or free.<\/p>\n

When we flash for\u00adward to the 1930s, that is when Plu\u00adto is oppo\u00adsite to Plu\u00adto and con\u00adjunct Mer\u00adcury. That is what we have in the 1930s and FDR<\/span> and the New Deal, and there is once again a restate\u00adment of eco\u00adnom\u00adic, polit\u00adi\u00adcal, and cul\u00adtur\u00adal life.<\/p>\n

We flash for\u00adward again to when Plu\u00adto squares to Plu\u00adto and Plu\u00adto squares Mer\u00adcury, and that was in the ear\u00adly 1980s and that is the era of Rea\u00adgan, where the mod\u00adel set in place in the late 1930s into the 1940s was bro\u00adken, and we had a new way of divid\u00ading up the wealth and well-being of our coun\u00adtry between the var\u00adi\u00adous sectors.<\/p>\n

That brings us to our time, and here in 2020 and 2021 and 2022, Plu\u00adto again lines up with Plu\u00adto and Plu\u00adto lines up with Mer\u00adcury, and again we are address\u00ading the same ques\u00adtion: Is our soci\u00adety based upon a clear divi\u00adsion that is equi\u00adtable and mean\u00ading\u00adful between the dif\u00adfer\u00adent sec\u00adtors and how they share in the wealth of this coun\u00adtry, or have we reached a break\u00ading point in terms of how unequal the bal\u00adance is between those who have and those who have not?<\/p>\n

Nep\u00adtune<\/strong>
\nWell, fold\u00ading that into some\u00adthing else we can look at the pat\u00adtern\u00ading as revealed by the plan\u00adet Nep\u00adtune. Nep\u00adtune is extreme\u00adly impor\u00adtant in a chart. (Plu\u00adto rules the will in the sense of integri\u00adty, and are we respect\u00ading our own space and keep\u00ading our\u00adselves with integri\u00adty in our own inter\u00adnal spir\u00adi\u00adtu\u00adal space, and equal\u00adly respect\u00ading and not infring\u00ading or vio\u00adlat\u00ading or tres\u00adpass\u00ading upon the space of oth\u00aders). Nep\u00adtune is the prin\u00adci\u00adple of our vision and dream, of our spir\u00adi\u00adtu\u00adal self. The dream of Amer\u00adi\u00adca, of any\u00adone, is held by the plan\u00adet Nep\u00adtune. When it is lin\u00ading up with itself, we are ques\u00adtion\u00ading or ask\u00ading, \u201cwhat is the dream of America?\u201d<\/p>\n

We start with Nep\u00adtune in Vir\u00adgo in the USA<\/span> chart, right at the top of the chart, so it is part of this dream struc\u00adture that is quite strong, and we go from 1776 and by the late 1850s and Nep\u00adtune is oppo\u00adsite to Nep\u00adtune. And, we are deal\u00ading with the first great exam\u00adple of our coun\u00adtry, of com\u00ading to a head over this divi\u00adsion, will we be a \u201cslave coun\u00adtry\u201d or will we be a \u201cfree coun\u00adtry\u201d? The dream of Amer\u00adi\u00adca is split between two dif\u00adfer\u00adent soci\u00adeties, North and South.<\/p>\n

And there were great debates and strug\u00adgles over that. And, of course, the great\u00adest speech or one of the great\u00adest speech\u00ades ever giv\u00aden at that time, and peo\u00adple refer to this again and again through\u00adout our his\u00adto\u00adry since then, was Lin\u00adcol\u00adn\u2019s great \u201chouse divid\u00aded speech\u201d dur\u00ading the Lincoln\/Douglas debates when he was run\u00adning for Senate.<\/p>\n

Abra\u00adham Lin\u00adcoln -<\/strong> \u201cA house Divided\u201d
\n<\/strong>So, I would just like to quote him in terms of what he was faced with at that time, what the coun\u00adtry was faced with at that time, which of course is like our time. Because what is hap\u00adpen\u00ading here in 2020, in 2020 and 2021 and 2022, Nep\u00adtune is once again oppo\u00adsite our Nep\u00adtune. And just like then these words hold true, and the words of Lin\u00adcoln are:<\/p>\n

\u201c<\/span>\u2026a house divid\u00aded against itself can\u00adnot stand. I believe this gov\u00adern\u00adment can\u00adnot endure per\u00adma\u00adnent\u00adly half slave and half free. I do not expect the union to be dis\u00adsolved, I do not expect the house to fall, but I do expect it will cease to be divid\u00aded. It will either become all one thing or all the oth\u00ader. Either the oppo\u00adnents of slav\u00adery will arrest the fur\u00adther spread of it and place it where the pub\u00adlic mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ulti\u00admate extinc\u00adtion or its advo\u00adcates will push it for\u00adward till it shall become law\u00adful in all the states, old as well as new, North as well as South.\u201d<\/p>\n

And here we find our\u00adselves in the begin\u00adning of the 2020s, with a coun\u00adtry that seems utter\u00adly divid\u00aded between cities and the rur\u00adal states, between peo\u00adple of mixed back\u00adgrounds and diver\u00adsi\u00adty and peo\u00adple who are iden\u00adti\u00adfy\u00ading as \u201cwhite\u201d. And so, we are strug\u00adgling once again with the iden\u00adti\u00adty of Amer\u00adi\u00adca, what is the dream of this coun\u00adtry, what shall we do with this dream, is cer\u00adtain\u00adly some\u00adthing that we are strug\u00adgling with now, just as our great ances\u00adtors strug\u00adgled in their time with their great division.<\/p>\n

I hope and believe it will not be resolved by war; I do believe we can find a way through with a call\u00ading to, as Lin\u00adcoln said, \u201cthe angels of our bet\u00adter nature\u201d, but it is cer\u00adtain\u00adly a time where we see divi\u00adsions with\u00adin and between one anoth\u00ader that are grow\u00ading and mount\u00ading. It has reached such a the point where, as Nep\u00adtune would say, \u201cwe are all con\u00adfused, we are all dis\u00adil\u00adlu\u00adsioned, and we are sim\u00adply not under\u00adstand\u00ading one anoth\u00ader\u201d, because some of the basic fram\u00ading and visions, the par\u00ada\u00addigms that we are liv\u00ading through in these dif\u00adfer\u00adent cul\u00adtures and sub\u00adcul\u00adtures do not hold together.<\/p>\n

E Pluribus Unum \u2014 Out of Many, One<\/strong>
\nWe must find our way back to com\u00admon\u00adly held views or an agree\u00adment upon what is com\u00admon to us, in order bring us togeth\u00ader in this time of great divi\u00adsion and mis\u00adun\u00adder\u00adstand\u00ading. Whether we can do so or not depends on you and I and every\u00adone else reach\u00ading across that divide and find\u00ading ways in which we can work togeth\u00ader to make it bet\u00adter for one and all; to real\u00adize that there are more things that we hold togeth\u00ader than hold us apart.<\/p>\n

But we are cer\u00adtain\u00adly being divid\u00aded from one anoth\u00ader and framed that way by var\u00adi\u00adous instru\u00adments and vehi\u00adcles of the mod\u00adern age, and these are mak\u00ading use of that divi\u00adsion for their own prof\u00adit and well-being. We must not suc\u00adcumb to that siren call of divi\u00adsion and of mak\u00ading the oth\u00ader \u201cthe oth\u00ader\u201d, but we must see that every\u00adone for the most part wants what we want, and we need to find a way to do that.<\/p>\n

Plu\u00adto and Neptune<\/strong>
\nI would point to anoth\u00ader great moment in our his\u00adto\u00adry, also when Plu\u00adto was lined up with Mer\u00adcury and Plu\u00adto, and when Nep\u00adtune was lined up also; it was when the Nep\u00adtune con\u00adjunc\u00adtion occurred. So, we had Nep\u00adtune start\u00ading in Vir\u00adgo, and it reach\u00ades its first oppo\u00adsi\u00adtion to itself that was the great divide of the Civ\u00adil War and it came around back to itself and we had a Nep\u00adtune con\u00adjunc\u00adtion, a return of Nep\u00adtune in the late 1930s when FDR<\/span> was in office. Roo\u00adsevelt put out as one of his great state\u00adments on how we should try to build a bet\u00adter world, over\u00adcom\u00ading the divi\u00adsions of the time, between Fas\u00adcism and Social\u00adism, and the wars that ensued. What he talked about was our need to work at devel\u00adop\u00ading and hold\u00ading to the \u201cFour Freedoms\u201d.<\/p>\n

FDR<\/span> and the Four Free\u00addoms \u2013 Free\u00addom from Fear<\/strong>
\nThe Four Free\u00addoms for him were: First is Free\u00addom of Speech and Expres\u00adsion, and he said for \u201cevery\u00adwhere in the world\u201d; the Sec\u00adond Free\u00addom is for every per\u00adson to wor\u00adship God in their own way, every\u00adwhere in the world; the third is Free\u00addom from Want which trans\u00adlat\u00aded into world terms means eco\u00adnom\u00adic under\u00adstand\u00adings which will secure to every nation a healthy peace\u00adtime life for its inhab\u00adi\u00adtants, every\u00adwhere in the world; and his great\u00adest call\u00ading, of course, and it res\u00adonates down the halls of his\u00adto\u00adry, the fourth free\u00addom is the Free\u00addom from Fear<\/strong>, which trans\u00adlates into world terms means a world\u00adwide reduc\u00adtion of arma\u00adments, of weapons of war, to such a point that in such a thor\u00adough fash\u00adion that no nation will be in a posi\u00adtion to com\u00admit an act of phys\u00adi\u00adcal aggres\u00adsion against any neigh\u00adbor, any\u00adwhere in the world.<\/p>\n

Well, I know we are far from that free\u00addom from fear, but it is a goal, it is a dream that we should hold dear in our hearts if we are going to make it through these upcom\u00ading years. Because cer\u00adtain\u00adly the world we know is falling apart, and it is not com\u00adplete\u00adly lost, the world we had. We must pre\u00adserve, pro\u00adtect, and main\u00adtain the val\u00adues, the struc\u00adtures, and the insti\u00adtu\u00adtions that are still viable and car\u00adry\u00ading out their nec\u00ades\u00adsary duties of meet\u00ading one anoth\u00ader\u2019s needs, which is what we use them for. But cer\u00adtain\u00adly, right now, we are deal\u00ading with the shat\u00adter\u00ading of our con\u00adsen\u00adsus and under\u00adstand\u00ading of what our life is to be based upon.<\/p>\n

Life, Lib\u00ader\u00adty and the Pur\u00adsuit of Happiness<\/strong>
\nMuch like our ances\u00adtors faced the divi\u00adsion between North and South, we face a divi\u00adsion with\u00adin our\u00adselves and with\u00adin our com\u00admu\u00adni\u00adties, and through\u00adout this coun\u00adtry that must be addressed. And it must be addressed by hold\u00ading high to the ideals that we found\u00aded this coun\u00adtry upon; that we are here in a com\u00admon fel\u00adlow\u00adship, pledg\u00ading our\u00adselves to one anoth\u00ader, our \u201cLife, Lib\u00ader\u00adty and the pur\u00adsuit of Happiness\u201d.<\/p>\n

We must pre\u00adserve, as much as we can, all Life<\/strong> and pro\u00adtect it; we must have Lib\u00ader\u00adty<\/strong>, which means to nev\u00ader infringe upon the rights of any oth\u00ader and to hold each oth\u00ader sacred in terms of our sacred selves; to pur\u00adsue Hap\u00adpi\u00adness<\/strong> which means to encour\u00adage and make pos\u00adsi\u00adble the means by which every per\u00adson is able to meet the great\u00adest degree of their own self-real\u00adiza\u00adtion and self-fulfillment.<\/p>\n

Hap\u00adpi\u00adness is not hav\u00ading more things, it is being your\u00adself and being able to reach the finest expres\u00adsion of that self by liv\u00ading in com\u00admu\u00adni\u00adties, by work\u00ading with one and for anoth\u00ader, so that we cel\u00ade\u00adbrate our diver\u00adsi\u00adty, cel\u00ade\u00adbrate our indi\u00advid\u00adu\u00adal\u00adi\u00adty, and we do not deny or den\u00adi\u00adgrate it.<\/p>\n

This is the dream of Amer\u00adi\u00adca and Nep\u00adtune rules our dreams. And right now, we are con\u00adfronting what will be the dream or the restate\u00adment of dream that will get us through these dark times. I am always hope\u00adful, that in the long run every\u00adthing is going to work out, but I know things looked dark right now. And every\u00adone should be remind\u00aded that our ances\u00adtors went through very dark times indeed and they came through it shin\u00ading, by build\u00ading a bet\u00adter world.<\/p>\n

We are not done yet of course there is a lot of work to be done but this is our hour to stand and shine for truth, for love, and for one another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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